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Лечение не назначено.\n\n На момент консультации я уже была хорошо обследована, спасибо врачу за честность, что лишних обследований не назначал. \nИммунологический диагноз не поставлен, причины постоянной реактивации эпштейн - барр вируса не выяснены ( к компетентности врача у меня претензий нет, ситуация с иммунитетом действительно мутная и лежит вне диагностических стандартов и протоколов). \nПретензия в том, что по сути в свете объективной невозможности поставить диагноз и назначить лечение в рамках доказательной медицины - это скорее была не консультация, а очередной бессмысленный \nдля меня как пациента околофилософский разговор об иммунологии и причинах, почему мне нельзя поставить диагноз и соответственно нельзя назначить лечение . \nТо есть ответы в стиле \" Ну, может у вас это от этого, а может и не от этого\", когда много лет болезни и так слушаешь ровно то же самое, для меня лично 33 тысячи рублей не стоит. \nХотелось услышать хоть что - то новое. 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